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BrotherE

Registered: 04/18/08
Posts: 82
Reply with quote  #61 
 Like I've stated before I'll take truth where I can get it and Pastor Smith has truth of a truth.  I don't agree with all he says but I'll take all I can use like today's message and apply it to my life. Look I don't hate Pastor Smith or even dislike him or anybody on this board for that matter even if they don't like me.
I think the only thing we differ on is just some of our teachings and PJ is not going to get a fare chance unless the two meet because its easy to say a person is wrong in this and that and they aren't around to reply and as far as I know PJ hasn't said anything about him at least not publicly. Lets be honest, how many people have wrote in or called about our similarities? It something there.
 I know this much since we're false as some believe if it were a way for PJ turn over the work to Pastor Smith he would. Traveling for days and weeks at a time , 14 hour flights, 4-6 hour car rides in the 120 degree weather in foreign countries , gone from home all month come for three days and right back on the road.. Yeah I think he would give it up in a minute if he could and be saved. 
 So IMHO "this is just me now" I think we owe it the members of TWOG and First Church to a open and orderly debate/ discussion and or question and answer. Because like I've said since we both claim truth people outside are going to be confused and the last time I check it was about the souls of the people.
 As far his daughter i really don't care really cause people have been trying to bring him down for the ten years I've been there and way before that, no reason it should stop now. Its just that one night he came out said  some one had accessed her myspace which is not unheard of and did what they did so who was I to question it, I'm striving my self.
 He could have just as easily said yeah it was her and she did it with out me and my wife's knowledge as some kids do It wouldn't have taken anything from him as far as I'm concerned cause kids rebel and do stuff to spite there parents.
 In my closing  if its ever proven with out doubt what is said about PJ and his teachings I'd leave for my souls sake and the TWOG would have my absolute gratitude and loyalty of a truth but know one has done it so far. Peace unto all.   HEY WHERE'S MY $64,000 LOL

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sistasoul

Registered: 01/04/08
Posts: 26
Reply with quote  #62 
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I AM NOT a member of Gino Jennings church, I know to much to be under an accursed preacher.

I am just trying to get other's to see behind the scenes at FIRST CHURCH -AND Pastor Gino Jennings before its too late.

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sistasoul

Registered: 01/04/08
Posts: 26
Reply with quote  #63 
BROTHER-E
my point exactly -- Now can you see how easy it is for Gino to lie?

he could have just said he did not know about the issue.

he lied about this and he lies about many other topics

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Kita

Registered: 10/31/07
Posts: 410
Reply with quote  #64 
PRAISE THE LORD SAINTS

I see that this topic is going to be never ending it seems LOL, but it is sad that it has to be like this.
As for SistaSoul I am so glad that you got out of there if you saw things that was not of Yah no matter what they may say.  It is obvious that something is not right about the whole matter me personally I don't know, but Yah will not stir people wrong about his truth.  Keep standing SistaSoul!
If people would listen carefully to Pastor Tony Smiths sermons they would hear what he says.  HE KNOW MR. GINO JENNINGS personally it is not like he don't know him he has stated that plenty many times it's just no hear say.  I am just saying because once again I don't know Mr. Gino Jennings BUT just from listen I know that Pastor Tony knows him, and if back then he was doing things NOT according to Yah seriously how would it get better.  This is just using logic or common sense as they say if people are walking out of his church saying the same things that Pastor Tony has said I mean come on.
MOST IMPORTANTLY WHY YOU MAY NOT HAVE HEARD MR. GINO JENNINGS CALL PASTOR OUT OF THINGS HE IS DOING THAT IS NOT OF GOD MAYBE BECAUSE HE KNOWS NOTHING ON HIM TO SAY SO OR HE KNOWS WHAT IS BEING SAID IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH! I am just saying once again I don't know him.
Just by me listening I have not once seen anyone come out to say anything on Pastor Tony only things they don't like because he be hitting them like a RUBBER HAMMER on a HARD HEAD!  Meaning some people are just going to be hard to come to truth no matter how much word you give them!
PEACE BE & BE BLESSED SAINTS KEEP STANDING!!



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BrotherE

Registered: 04/18/08
Posts: 82
Reply with quote  #65 
 Well I'll say this if what I'm in is not of God it won't stand right? But so far I've seen no signs of us slowing down.  SistaSoul I find it hard to believe you were once a member because of your outspokenness, a little to outspoken. I don't know why you left but IMO its not for the reasons you stated.
If you went there then you know on Thur night you can ask questions during service or you could made an appointment with the church secretary to see him to air your concerns. I'm sorry I'm not buying it.
I'm just going by experience, usually if people leave its cause they won't turn from there ways either they are having a hard time trying to overcome something or they just plain out refuse to change (IE second spouse). But they leave and that's it you don't here from them.
Now people that were put out for stuff like stealing money from the financial office, filing false tax returns in the pastors name,  because he wouldn't ordain them or check this because he wouldn't lend them more money and they didn't pay back the first loan and they got a new car.  They are always the ones who have alot to say, like the women who attacked his wife from behind in service one Sunday I'm sure she has nothing but good things to say.  

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Registered: 11/11/07
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Reply with quote  #66 
Brother E statement: If you went there then you know on Thur night you can ask questions during service or you could made an appointment with the church secretary to see him to air your concerns. I'm sorry I'm not buying it.

My ??? is to you is this. If you believe that there is truth being taught and preached here by Pastor Tony than why do you always come to defend Gino when it comes to buying and selling in the church, and his daughter going to the prom (and women asking questions during service time?) What have you learnt since you have been viewing the live sermons here and what does your pastor think about you feeding off of a Pastor that had exposed him on several things that you yourself had repeatedly said had not been proven. Really Brother E you don't sound convincing either.

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BrotherE

Registered: 04/18/08
Posts: 82
Reply with quote  #67 
I know truth when I hear it and I'm not going to disrespect Pastor Smith even if there is somethings I don't agree with or should I say been taught different. Like I said if its ever proved about the things said about PJ are true hey I'll leave and be committed to the TWOG but no one has done that yet.
 Its just Pastor Smith talking using scripture to make his point just like PJ does so IMO this thing could go either way and  I'm not that fool enough to come out say Pastor Smith is false, accursed, and a lie because I don't want to blasheme and say something I can't take back.
 So I'll just play it safe, besides what kind of person would I be if I just hopped and left after 10 years that would show no kind of root in me I'm not going to start church jumping. Now I could see if it was like the first church I to went in Delaware, I knew something was wrong there before I was even exposed to truth , but  that was all I knew. Plus my dad went there and I had made alot of friends but I had to go its was just to much preaching about money, speak in tounghs when you want etc, etc... 
That's the whole thing here its our teachings that's all but the sincerity is the same. As far as his daughter is concerned I'm still not convinced and I'm past it and as far me learning from Pastor Smith I think PJ would'nt really care as long as I'm learning truth.
Women asking questions in church in reference to "its not permitted for them to speak" so I guess you can't testify, pray, prophesy, sing. Let them ask there husbands right? Well what if she's is a widow or not married.  Quoting scripture and breaking it down is two different things. Now if you'll excuse me I have a lot of snow to shovel. Peace unto all. 

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sistasoul

Registered: 01/04/08
Posts: 26
Reply with quote  #68 
Brother E;

There are many false preachers with not just hundreds of members and big buildings, but thousands of members and still growing they have huge buildings such as the FAITH DOME (Fred Price) look at TD JAKE'S ETC.
so don't tell me that because a man has a few members ,and I say a few when referring to Gino Jennings because compared to men like TD JAKE'S, FRED PRICE etc he only has a few. That his work is of GOD.
There must be a steadfast following of the Apostles doctrine.
That man must not be a liar.
There is always some type of confusion going on.
That man must ordain Elders in every church that is under his leadership, not have brothers up teaching that do not know what they are talking about like the recent one in Fredericksburg,VA who was preaching that there is no hell.
Most of GINO'S branch churches are a big Joke they are dead in spirit until the Big man shows up.
I was a member for approx ten years so I am no church hopper, I have observed pastor Jennings stating things that I knew were lies, its very easy for him to lie he does it regularly.
He is using books that the apostles were no part of, I say again he is accursed.


BrotherE

Registered: 04/18/08
Posts: 82
Reply with quote  #69 
 You act like FEW is such a bad word.
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
For many are called, but few are chosen.
 So you're saying thats theres no spirit until PJ arrives meaning the spirit of God is with him right?
 Yeah PJ took care of "No Hell" and left him in knots. You  know really its a shame that you can't put some brothers up just to encourage the people without it going to there head.
 Which is it were you a member for 10 years or 12 like you stated in another post?
  Oh yeah a FEW more things. Be not rash with thy mouth, and let not thine heart be hasty to utter any thing before God: for God is in heaven, and thou upon earth: therefore let thy words be few.

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sistasoul

Registered: 01/04/08
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Reply with quote  #70 
I said approx 10 years which means the time is not exact.

Pastor Jennings already knew how this brother was, because the complaints have came in about this brother many times before and pastor Jennings still let him  (preach)
he should have sit him down years ago.
but that's what you get when you let these novice up before the people.

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comp

Registered: 02/24/09
Posts: 15
Reply with quote  #71 

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Originally Posted by sistasoul
BrotherE, PLEASE get your head out of the sand!!

take a GOOD LOOK at the whole set up at first church, the branch churches
are not on bible order, being run by brother's not Elders, THE use of books that are not Inspired etc,
He is teaching that a married couple has no boundaries, they can perform any act.

you better wake up.

Every one is lying on (GINO JENNINGS ) he will have you to believe.

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i see that you have been hurt, what did Gino do to you that would make you want to put pictures of his kids up on this site or give some type of info on where he live.what is wrong with you, paster tony smith is not right on somethings but you say nothing about it. anyway,and what would make you want to look up or track down his kid my space account,you must have a lot of time on your hands, you have gone to far,are you the lady that took that money from the church. and where in the bible where it say i cant do certain things with my wife, that question goes out to anyone, remember i said my wife not with another man for that in itself is crazy.and for the record im on this site because i want to be on this site, if you dont want people on the site talking about whatever then take it down. and whats wrong with trying to sell something from your website. im surprized that you didnt say anything about his wife.

comp

Registered: 02/24/09
Posts: 15
Reply with quote  #72 

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Originally Posted by Chris
Well, Gino Jennings, sells c.d.'s on his website, and also in the basement of his church. Or somewhere, in the Church. (St. Luke 19:45-46)
45And he (Jesus) went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold therein, and them that bought;
   46Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves.

Gino Jennings had also talked about, on one of his sermons, about him and his wife having oral sex.

There are also some of his teachings that are off.

I hope this has helped.
comp

what teachings are off

BrotherE

Registered: 04/18/08
Posts: 82
Reply with quote  #73 

 Comp you off the wall! You gonna get both of us kicked off! LOL


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sistasoul

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Reply with quote  #74 
No I was not the one who stole money from the church( if there was indeed anyone who stole money) , in fact I gave a great deal to the church, helping get one of the temples up and running, but when I saw through the deception that was going on, I had to move on.
I have noticed that everyone who leaves there , some lie is told about that person (they stole money, they are gay,etc. WOW.

BrotherE

Registered: 04/18/08
Posts: 82
Reply with quote  #75 
  I was at service one night and in came 4 detectives going towards the financial office. PJ said some one stole some money and they were there to investigate. he did'nt go into details and they left about after an hour.I'm not saying that's it the same in all cases and I didn't say EVERYONE.
 People leave for different reasons only known to them and some were ran out by the word.  We've had brothers that come there who  were gay and tried to change and for what ever reasons "THEY" found it to hard to change or just didn't want to so they left. 
That's one thing of many I could say that if you're gay either you're going to change or leave no doubt about it.
Now just like that thread about the bru I was one of the first to read it but I did'nt want my reply to seem like" Ah Ha Look at You" So I listened and I knew better than that to think he cursed. I knew it was a reasonable explanation like either it was feed back or it just sounded like that word.
 But this what I'm talking about TWOG. I have a pretty good sense for how people feel about me being on here and I thank Pastor Smith for letting me express myself even though we don't agree. Even if I'm blocked I won't hate.

 Saying all that to say this The post about bru shouldn't have happened Pastor Smith could have been PM if it was that much of a concern. But people act like "oh I'm just looking out" when really they are just trying to "point out" for what ever reasons.
There's a saying about "misery loves  company" and know  one wants to be alone in there wrong doing so they point out the faults of others and try to make it seem like they are doing the church a favor. But see when you stand for something its like a mirror and you make people take a hard look at themselves they don't like what they see. 
So instead of trying to change they try to bring others down to there level because inside they feel like an outsider and they think everyone is looking at them or knows what they are doing so to make themselves feel better they do what they do.
Come on BE HONEST what good did that thread do  but maybe cast doubt and become stumbling block for some for a moment. But this is whats going to happen as time goes on and TWOG grows you're going to have this.
You can keep that door all the way to the  floor and weld it shut , they'll come through the window looking just like you and acting like you . Some will be exposed right away some will be there for years.  You'll see, TWOG has alot of new members coming from far and near and some of them in there wake is nothing but drama.
 You are not going to weed all them out that's just how it is. A pastor shouldn't have to be a baby sitter and somethings members should be able to work out for themselves if they have been paying attention to the word.
He said she said I mean if you got all those views and  replies from just an accusation whats going to happen when someone says I saw this and that persons cars parked at the church and the church was closed and they both married. 
Now they don't see no one they just see cars, no people, by the time that call gets to the last person... well you know how we are. Or someone says  I put a hundred dollar bill in the offering on Saturday and I saw Brother Jim's wife at the mall with the same hundred dollar bill buying a Coach bag. "Girl for real" "Yeah cause I mark all my money" . Its dumb things like that or along the same line that will cause division. The sad thing is the trouble makers won't leave they just stay like a stubborn rash.  May seem funny but it happens more than you know.
This stuff is going to happen it has to , its not going to be a cake walk "anything worth having is going to require work." Another good one is "my husband been reading now for 2 years, when he gonna preach?" " I think the pastor is holding him back cause I had a dream about it" Yeah sure you did.
 TWOG I pray that you all  continue  in truth and hopefully we'll meet but not as enemies but as coworkers of the truth. Say what you want one church is not going to be able to do all this work and IMO I think we can find some common ground to build upon since its about the soul of people. 
I'm not saying this to try to justify any accusations against PJ. I see the TWOG has something good by the way you interact with each other and I know it would be a shame to see it all come down overnight due to foolishness after all Pastor Smith's work.
Not talking to anyone in particular" but if the shoe fit take it off"  BTW cause someone or anyone (CLAIMS) to have left us or was ran out don't rejoice cause they were never of us anyway. They just trying to fake it till if they make it and all they going to do is bring that same deceitful,  spirit right down to Georgia! peace  

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